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Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Law [POLL]

Justices voted 5-4 in favor of keeping the law.

The United States Supreme Court has upheld the national health care law passed two years ago, according to NBC News.

The court voted 5-4 in its ruling.

Follow HuffingtonPost's live blog for continuing updates. For photos of protestors and supporters' at the court reacting to the ruling, click on the photo box to the right. 

What are your thoughts on the ruling? Tell us in the comments section below, and take our poll.

[Editor's note: This poll appears on several Patch sites in the Boston area.]

Aron Levy July 05, 2012 at 02:24 PM
@Chris Sorry for the transgressions on my part. I'm much more used to commenting on the SPLC's Hatewatch blog, where it is impossible to NOT take a hard line when dealing with many of the white nationalist trolls that come to spew their filth.
M C Stringfellow July 05, 2012 at 03:08 PM
P.S. I do not believe that the Government is "inherently evil". I just want them to enforce the laws set forth by the Constitution and do their job. Not to interpret those laws for political or party gain or make new laws that will benefit certain groups and leave others to suffer the consequences (the Middle Class). Financially, the middle class has always suffered through taxes. But, we still keep trucking.
KMHealy July 05, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Baloney---I'm so tired of you liberals enforcing the rules against the only voices that are truly American.---I look forward to bringing truth to the other uniformed fools on this page---Go Romney!
Earnhardt July 05, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Aaron! your back! there's another European reference from you. You really should move there, Can I help you pack? :) Yeah I know, the move somewhere else kine is over used, but you just keep inviting me to throw it out there again...You wouod support more Govt. controls. How about more taxes also? because this is all Obamacare is. like it or not. that is all it is.. What will they mandate next?
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:07 AM
I'm hard pressed in 20+ years of nursing to site one example of anyone who was refused healthcare because they weren't insured. When I was at Mass General there was a homeless man being treated on our unit for pneumonia. He received the best care in the world without having to personally pay a penny, no questions asked. The problem with this health care law is that the quality of care will be equally miserable for everyone when care is uniformly distributed by the federal government.
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:15 AM
Please give real factual information when you state that thousands of families are becoming bankrupt paying for their medical conditions. I'm an RN, so is my sister and a cousin. Another cousin is an ER physician, an uncle was a GP. None of us can site an example of anyone within the varied healthcare services in which we've worked who has gone bankrupt or been driven from their homes because of a health condition. If they were then they weren't properly treated by their medical providers. Hill Burton laws make it mandatory for any hospital receiving government funding to provide healthcare to anyone who enters the providing institution regardless of circumstances. Even if you could give me a litany of examples, they would not be a good enough excuse for ruining the best health care system in the world. How many Americans cross the Canadian border looking for better care than they can get here?
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Please give concrete examples of this happening in this country.
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:19 AM
I agree that politicians and federal judges should be subject to the same rules, penalties and services that they insist the rest of us be subject to. It would get rid of a lot of hypocrisy in this country.
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:25 AM
Maura, how do you know this isn't true? Please offer proof of your statement.
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:31 AM
Why don't you put this a different way, who out there who doesn't want the federal government to mandate how you and the rest of the country receive healthcare has worked hard to get to the point where you get good healthcare? Because if you have, guys like Ken Pope think that you owe it to him and every one else to give up your good healthcare coverage because it's not fair to others who haven't earned what you have. When I was a kid we were dirt poor. My Mom negotiated with a pediatrician when I came down with pneumonia to get me the medicine I needed. The federal government is hiring 16,500 IRS agents to help implement this plan. It will be harder for poor people to pay a fine for not being able to afford healthcare than it will be for them to get care from a hospital that can currently make up the difference with insurance payments from those who can afford it.
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:34 AM
Mr. Levy, if the health care was so good in those countries why didn't you stay? what is it about Lahey Clinic that you don't like? My step-mother was an RN there for over 25 years. We'd all like to know what you think we should do better.
Earnhardt July 06, 2012 at 12:42 AM
@Katy G. If you question Aaron Levy on why he didnt stay in England, he will spin it to try to make you look like an idiot. or accuse you of trying to scare everyone. LOLOL
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 12:44 AM
:) Yup, or call me names, a favorite argument tool of the left.
Earnhardt July 06, 2012 at 12:50 AM
:) you hit the nail on the head... big winds come from empty caves,,, :)
Locally Involved July 06, 2012 at 05:08 AM
National Healthcare (ACA): 1. Invented by conservatives (The Heritage Foundation) 2. Promoted by conservatives (Newt Gingrich, 90s, as an alternative to "Hillary-care" 3. Implemented by a conservative (Gov. Romney, remember him?) 4. Upheld by a conservative (Chief Justice Roberts) 5. And, now, denounced by conservatives. Tax, penalty, fine - what does it matter? If you have healthcare, you don't pay a fine. People seem not to have any problem paying for insurance against uninsured motorists. No problem paying highway tolls (which is a tax for using the road! People who don't use the road, don't pay the toll). No problem paying $1 or more on cigarettes (again, you don't smoke, you don't pay the tax). So why no such a problem? Doesn't matter what you call it - you only pay it if you don't have or cannot obtain health insurance. Really, a little common sense and logic is all that is needed. Seems to me as I read these comments is ideology blinds many.
Locally Involved July 06, 2012 at 05:22 AM
And, to address the issues of the quality of care under the ACA, a few facts about our healthcare in this country attributed primarily to equality of access: 1. 39th in infant mortality 2. 43rd in female mortaility 3. 42nd in male mortality 4. 36th in life expectancy 5. 1st in healthcare spending Of course, like all things, these rankings are NOT solely due to access, but also our eating habits and (lack of) exercise habits. However, if national healthcare in other countries are so awful, one has to ask why do our outcomes rank so low? The ACA is just a first step, many changes are to come as it did with social security and other national programs. One things is clear, the bottom 20 companies nationally in customer service and satisfaction are telecom and healthcare. Interestingly, 2 industries that are in effect duopolies - no choice, no competition. Exist only to serve their shareholders. Is anyone truly happy with their cost of healthcare or cable service? No, that's why they rank so low! If the only thing the ACA does is create competition in healthcare insurance therefore drive down cost of insurance, then good.
Marc near the Park July 06, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Like a knife through warm butter, thank you Locally Involved!
Poppaone July 06, 2012 at 01:11 PM
For one thing, everyone in America will not get heathcare. For another, it is not afordable, and the costs will increase tenfold in the years ahead. Obama said this plan will reduce everyone's medical costs by $2500 per year. The reality of the matter is that they have already INCREASED by about $2300! Thats a $4800 difference between the promise and the reality. And the numbers will only get worse. The bill was 2700 pages long - which NO ONE read and the lawyers have already written 30,000 pages of new rules! Name ONE thing the government does better than private enterprise. Can't can't even fight a necessary war because the bureaucrats and lawyers guide the military as well. YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WASHINGTON IS DOING - AND PUT A STOP TO IT!
K Coyne July 06, 2012 at 01:41 PM
Thanks for some data/question and reasoning. Locally Involved is asking the right questions!
Poppaone July 06, 2012 at 02:34 PM
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it..." “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over” No, not David Axelrod and President Obama, but Joseph Goebbels. chief propagandist or the National Socialist Party.
Chris Schaffner July 06, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Finally some common sense. Great posts LI.
Katy G. July 06, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Locally Involved, I can understand why these statistics (if they're correct) would lead you to believe that there's something wrong with American health care. The reason why our infant mortality rates are high is because we're actually capable of saving preemie babies. Preemies in this country are considered live births and more are saved than anywhere else in the world. Another reason for high mortality rates is that we have a porous border and take on a large number of immigrants who have serious health care issues. Diseases that were previously wiped out in this country have re-appeared with the influx of people from other countries. Diseases such as MDR TB and West Nile virus were a non-issue 30 yeares ago. In NYC MDR TB is a serious health issue in immigrant populations. Bed bugs and other vectors that carry illness have made a reappearance in the general population. The US is a very generous country. We don't turn people away who need medical care. Through PIH and St. Boniface Haiti Foundation we bring in patients for critical care in Boston area hospitals who would otherwise never get the care in their native country. I don't see how any of these issues will be effectively dealt with if the federal government is in charge of healthcare. I don't care whose idea it was in the first place. For that matter Hitler nationalized health care when he took over. It is a bad idea to take away people's choices and leave the government in charge.
Locally Involved July 06, 2012 at 06:51 PM
@Kathy - These figures are the latest figures I have from the World Health Organization. I take issue with your comment that government is taking away choice with healthcare. In fact, the exchanges will finally allow more than 2 healthcare companies to compete in a given geographical area for my healthcare dollars. the ACO's (Accountable Care Organizations) that Aetna and Inova as well as other hospital care systems are putting together are actually customer focused, value add. The ACA is finally giving me choice and forcing a duopoly industry to change. It's but a small step. We are the last industrialized nation to take this step. Comparing national healthare to Hitler's Germany is bizarre. Personally, forcing Americans to have papers to prove their citizenry is more Nazi than healthcare! For me, who has been rejected by both local providers because I have auto immune thyroid - something 32 MILLION Americans have and simply requires a bit of synthroid - a pre-existing condition. It's genetic, no kidding. My only option is to have heart failure or fatal afib (which both parents did, because of the thyroid), get carted to my local ER and hospital and have YOUR health insurance pay. Not because I don't want healthcare insurance, but because I can't buy healthcare insurance. Now I can. Now I have a choice. Anywhere you travel in this country, you would be hard pressed to find more than 2 h/c providers per area. The ACA GIVES choice where none was before.
Paul Turner July 09, 2012 at 06:18 PM
If Romney wants to repeal the Affordable Health Care Act, it will be akin to him saying to America, "My idea stinks" . Romney himself said many of President Obama's goals in the bill came from what he(Romney)set up as Governor.
Katy G. July 10, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Here's a revealing article about the excellent health care offered on the other side of the pond by government run healthcare: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/obamacare_is_shovel-ready_for_you.html
Katy G. July 10, 2012 at 01:09 AM
What Romney said when pressed on this issue is that states should be allowed to decide what they want for healthcare and not be dictated to by the federal government. There are enough liberals in this state, including the liberal democrat legislature, who wanted state mandated healthcare coverage so that Romney passed it. Deval Patrick strengthened what Romney put into place in terms of state over sight. If the majority of taxpayers in Massachusetts want the current health care system in Mass as it exists that should be fine with the rest of the country and the minority of Massachusetts voters who apparently disagree. It's a whole different situation for the federal government to be regulating and implementing healthcare in a country of greater than 300 million people, especially when that federal government is already 16 trillion dollars in debt. Health care has to be paid for by somebody. The past month the US gained 80,000 jobs while it added 85,000 to some form of government assistance. Some one has to pay for all of these government programs. There isn't enough revenue to pay for this and make it work well.
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dan September 24, 2012 at 10:54 AM
The Democrats increased taxes on the people by passing a bill to give health care for all. What bothers people is that the Democrats said the health care bill was not a tax; but, fought for the health care law in the courts by calling it a tax. Now the people have a large tax increase for health care and the government will run it.
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