City Names Restaurants, Stores For Polaroid Site

Mayor Jeanette McCarthy has announced which stores are being planned for the site.

Six new stores and restaurants are being considered for the shoppling complex planned for the former Polaroid site on Main Street, according to Waltham Mayor Jeanette McCarthy.

Starbucks, Marshall's, Bonefish Grill, 2Ovens, Jake & Joe's Sports Grille, and a major supermarket are all "being vetted" for the site, McCarthy announced in a statement to reporters. McCarthy did not specify which supermarket would be coming to the site, but Market Basket has previously said it wanted to open a store at the location.

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Other technology and department stores are being considered for the site as well, McCarthy said. 

Also, the city and developer will be holding a contest to name the site, but the developer has final say over the name, according to McCarthy. The winner will receive a $250 gift card to Market Basket. More details on the contest will be announced at a later date. 

If approved, the Starbucks would be the city's first. Plans for a Starbucks in Waltham fell apart earlier this year.

Daniel Iknaian September 28, 2012 at 03:29 AM
I'm liking all of this debate on here, as a prospective tenant I agree that we should not put a Marshall's, pay less and a dunkins... It needs to be something special not something that everyone else has...the parts of Waltham along 128 are really getting a big boost in development with this new site going up as well as a smaller development on the corner of Lexington st and Trapelo rd. I am very excited to see all of this but at the same time it can't turn into Moody st. either. These new sites need to be able to sustain themselves by having a diverse and UNIQUE mixture of stores. Personally I'd love to have it be a female fashion oriented lifestyle center with a Lululemon, anthropology, madewell and an abercrombie,Betsy Johnson etc etc a nice cosmetics store. I would be opening a jewelry store so that is covered and then some type of a high tech store like an apple store and then a nice mens store. I'd love to see a good mixture of food as well which I think we're getting but we also need something higher end and I think Flemming's would do really well here. This place should be somewhere that people can come to have fun day and night, bring a date, bring some friends hang out for a little while and have fun at an outdoor type of a setting. - As far as traffic goes, I heard they might be making a connection from third ave into the site so I wouldn't even have to get on the high way and people coming south can get off on winter st instead of rt 20.
Beverly September 28, 2012 at 08:21 PM
How about a Whole Foods or Trader Joe's?
Beverly September 28, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Nothing wrong with a Marshall's going in there. Lots of people cannot afford to patronize high end specialty clothing stores. Have you seen the crowds at the new Job Lot in Waltham? We also need a real dollar store like The Dollar Tree in Burlington where everything really is one dollar.
Daniel Iknaian September 29, 2012 at 08:51 PM
you can put a marshal's at the ford dealer site we need nicer stores off the high way to draw people. You can go to TJ Maxx on Lexington st its the same company.
Beverly September 29, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Yes that is true but do so called "nicer" meaning pricey stores draw people who want to spend. Look at what happened to the Atrium on Route 9. Stability for the long run might make more sense after all it wasn't too long ago that Moody Street was a desolate area full of boarded up shops.
Beverly September 29, 2012 at 09:09 PM
BTW Daniel what is the business you may want to install in this shopping center? Just curious.
David King September 29, 2012 at 09:45 PM
I too am confused by the rumors about traffic improvements. A City official told me that none of these "improvements" have been approved by the City, yet Sam Park is turning an abandoned parking lot into a massive main entrance. How can this be done, when were the public hearings? Why doesn't the Mayor hold a press conference with Councilor Giordano to tell us how the Ravenswood/Stow area is going to be protected from this massive traffic addition? Why is the City blocking a connection to Fifth Av that would take pressure off of Main ST? I guess it's more important to announce that Marshall's is going in while the traffic remediation remains a secret.
Daniel Iknaian September 30, 2012 at 02:34 PM
Hi Beverly I am looking to open a jewelry store, my family and I have been in the business for quite some time and are looking to open up shop in our home town. When I say nicer, im not talking about putting a Neiman Marcus in Waltham however whats the point of putting in a store thats all ready everywhere???? We have a chance to make this something unique and if we put in stores that aren't overly saturated then it will give them a chance to thrive rather then just opening a chain and having it go stale. Look at TJMaxx and Marshal's which is whats proposed, why is someone from Sudbury or someone from Burlington going to drive down or someone from Needham going to come up for that? They won't, lets give people a reason to make Waltham the destination again. Because when Moody st was in it prime people from inside of 495 would come to Waltham to do their shopping, but now there is a lot more competition Legacy place in Dedham, Patriot place in Foxboro and Wayside Commons in Burlington which has a Capitol Grill. If there is some thought put into this center then it will actually survive rather then turning into Wayside commons in Burlington it can be Legacy place or patriot place which has a nice tenant mixture AND we are going to get a nice upscale restaurant like Flemming's would be great for promotions and incentives for customers that come and shop .
Daniel Iknaian September 30, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Hi David I was also wondering when all of this was announced, I dont think it has been yet because we would have heard something solid about it. Im trying to find out when there is going to be a city meeting about this issue and I will post something up here when I do
Daniel Iknaian September 30, 2012 at 02:37 PM
I understand that people want some inexpensive shopping as well which is great im not opposed to it at all, I go to Marshal's and TJMaxx as well, I live around the corner from the TJ's in Waltham and it serves its purpose well, however I believe that putting something like that at the Polaroid site is very very detrimental to the contemporary design of the plaza.
Kris September 30, 2012 at 10:26 PM
I think some of the stores may be waiting to see what grocery store is going to be the anchor. If it is a Whole Foods or Trader Joe's, then I think we'll see some higher end tenants interested. If it is Market Basket, we'll probably get more affordable stores interested. Right now I go to Burlington for Old Navy and the Apple store. Either way, I'd rather spend my money here.
bearhill October 01, 2012 at 08:32 PM
This discussion here has been really interesting. Consider me disappointed with the news of Marshall's coming in. It makes me feel like I'm living in bland southern New Hampshire all over again. If it adds anything, here are some fun links though. Project Blog: http://1265main.wordpress.com/ Retail Development Group (hmm..look at all those market baskets!): http://rmd-inc.net/ A promotional flier stating 140,000 SF of committed retail/restaurant tenants, not to mention branding the site as one of the most stunning views east of the Mississippi...which is probably a bit of a stretch: http://t.co/ojfmAOj9
Don Cook October 01, 2012 at 09:25 PM
The stunning view is of Prospect Hills Park, a bit less stunning than before since they blasted away the buffer area along the park boundary. The stunning view of the park, however, will probably be ruined for the tenants by the soon-to-be-relocated high voltage transmission lines. If they notice that kind of thing.
David King October 01, 2012 at 10:03 PM
I have from a reliable source that Market Basket is definitely the grocery store unless something strange happens. Retail Management & Development (RMD), who is doing the rentals at Polaroid, is the real estate development arm of DeMoulas Supermarkets Inc (Market Basket). It's also rumored that RMD, Market Basket and/or the DeMoulas family is helping to finance the project. Given all of this, it's a mystery to me that they won't publicly announce that they are the 100 sq ft grocery store anchor.
Daniel Iknaian October 01, 2012 at 11:37 PM
I'm disappointed as well but well see what else will go in.. when I originally called the leasing agents about this site they informed me that MB owned or is part owner of this development. I was also expecting something nicer given the design and big rent of the plaza 40-80$ per square foot plus NNN. Not sure sgIII they will attract other then regionals with that kind of money.
Daniel Iknaian October 01, 2012 at 11:39 PM
Does anyone know of any town hall meetings coming up that will have this site as one of its topics?
bearhill October 02, 2012 at 01:11 AM
I think my favorite part about all of this is the $250 Market Basket gift card to whomever 'wins' the 'site naming contest.' The Marshalls announcement is right in line with other current tenants of RMD-inc properties. Each one more underwhelming than the next. T.J. Maxx..CVS..Citizens Bank..Fashion Bug..CardSmart..Radio Shack..Olympia Sports..GNC (who are likely already going in at the Main Street Market Place)..Anton's Cleaners..Benjamin Moore..Beauty Terrace..Game Stop Starting to think I should just move back to Nashua, given they have three Market Baskets all on the same stretch of road. Also, no wonder they were so quick to take down the Lease Plan at 1265main.com when people started to notice it existed. At least that document looked promising, and people seemed excited. However, that was when Marshall's wasn't part of that plan.
David King October 02, 2012 at 01:17 AM
BTW, bearhill, what's going on on top of bearhill, other than Vinnie Mula getting rich.
bearhill October 02, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Hah, I'm not sure David! Since I'm close by, I've only really looked into the 1265Main site and the Main Street Market Place. Wasn't it supposed to some sort of housing deal? Maybe it's time to do some research on Mr. Mula.
Daniel Iknaian October 02, 2012 at 02:05 AM
Where did you hear about all of those stores? I heard they were looking into am Apple store, Jos A. Bank, Sprint or verizon wireless.
bearhill October 02, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Hey Daniel, the stores I listed off are just examples of the types of places RDM-inc often works with, aka the types of stores that end up in thier developments. So while I can't be sure what exactly is going in there, the Marshalls (which has been announced) seems to fit right in with the RDM-inc brand. At one point 1265Main.com had a "lease plan" (here it is http://i.imgur.com/kpW9W.jpg) it listed the higher end stores as an idea of what the development is looking to attract. Looks like the resteraunts are on par with some of the ideas they had listed, but notice how the Market Basket (in green on the left) isn't listed and there's no Marshalls either. So are we going to see these higher end places? Or just RDM-inc's typical boring brand (as we've already seen with the Marshall's announcement).
bearhill October 02, 2012 at 01:52 PM
Last thoughts. When you combine the fact that RMD-inc is a self-proclaimed "Value oriented retailer/developer" and that Sam park and RMD-inc have worked together on projects like Gloucester Crossing, which opened in 2009 (http://bo.st/QAyO3V), you get an idea of where the former Polaroid site is headed. Hey, Park even wanted to open a hotel at Gloucester Crossing. The hotel there was denied so, sadly, guests will never get the chance to enjoy such attractive Gloucester Crossing shopping options such as Market Basket..Marshalls..Ace Hardware..Petco..Dollar Tree..Olympia Sports..GameStop..Five Guy's (which just closed)..Cape Anne Liquors..Verizon Wireless..Sally Beauty..and Great Clips. Maybe I'm wrong. The the restaurants that signed on seem to be true to the original "higher end" vision. RMD-inc has yet to formally annouce the Market Basket, maybe they don't want to scare away some higher end retailers who wouldn't normally share space in a Market Basket anchored plaza?
Daniel Iknaian October 02, 2012 at 06:35 PM
too bad there is not more main st places that exist... all of these places are the same, their styles might vary but its all the same stores but with ridiculously high rent... with the triple net for example at the new main st strip it is over 50$ a sq/ft... how can any small business survive with that kind of rent... I really hope that they find a decent mixture of stores for this development because from the way it looks now its going to be a hoe-hum type of a place. I went to city hall this morning but as of now there are no city meetings regarding the 1265 main development.
Daniel Iknaian October 12, 2012 at 06:26 PM
Hi Guys just an update if anyone is still following this thread, bone fish grill 2 ovens starbucks, CVS , grand lux cafe and Z gallerie are all very close to signing. Per one of the leasing agents. Also it is going to be more female oriented but there will be some mens stores like Jos A bank, a mens hair cutting place as well as a nike store.
Sammy K October 16, 2012 at 02:09 AM
This is all very interesting to follow. As a resident who will be directly affected by the new site I am also dissapointed to see that there are no proposed traffic solutions being taken into serious consideration this far into the development. Day after day, night after night, living with all the banging and loud sounds of machinery, you think the city/developer would have the respect to let the residents in on what the heck is going on! In regards to the actual shops and restaurants, I would hope that they would try to emulate what magnificent complexes Legacy Place and Patriots Place have become for those respective cities. Do they want to improve the city and draw the 128 business crowd, etc. in or keep it contained to only the people who live in it?
Daniel Iknaian October 19, 2012 at 03:15 PM
Hi Sammy I am hoping that it will be like those two places as well, they do have some decent stores going in there so we'll see what happens.
Daniel Iknaian October 20, 2012 at 03:46 AM
Hi all just got some more new on the site today, looks like they are going to be downsizing the office section and adding for retail to the other side of M.B. as well.
Sara S October 31, 2012 at 06:44 PM
This commentary is very interesting to follow. As a homeowner in Waltham, I would LOVE to see something like Legacy Place happen in Waltham. I usually drive to Natick Mall/Route 9 or Legacy Place, or shop Newbury and Boylston Streets when I'm at work. This development should be a mix of upscale and mid-range offerings, to appeal to a more diverse demographic. I personally would love to see something like a Kohl's there, and agree that the Marshal's would be disappointing - that is a standard strip mall type place. LOFT, Sephora, Bath & Body Works and Kohl's are all huge draws for most women across many age ranges and socioeconomic backgrounds.
Daniel Iknaian November 06, 2012 at 03:02 PM
They are proposing these stores as follows: Z Gallerie, Anthropologie, Versona,Sephora, Loft, Grand Luxe cafe, Jcrew Chico's, J.Jill, Jos A.Bank, Nike, Bonefish grill, two ovens, jake and joes, pinkberry and roosters. Obviously we know the Market Basket is going to anchor it and then there is going to be another 35,480 sq ft of retail on the other side of MB. If you guys want to see something really nice check out the Lynnfield Market place that is going to be opening in 2013.
Bill O November 23, 2012 at 05:55 PM
I can't believe that there are no plans for traffic. How are all those cars getting into and out of this mall from 128?


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